Pub Theology 11/11/25 -- Spicing up the leftovers
Peter Trumbore • November 11, 2025
Our usual conversation got a little sidetracked last week as our discussion leader was traveling due to a family commitment. But that means we've got some tasty leftovers that we can chew on this week!
If you recall, last week we're going to talk a little about the Beatitudes, as recounted in the Gospel of Luke. Take a look at last week's topic for the precise passage, but the principal question we were going to address was this: If the words of Jesus about loving your enemies and so on are central to what it means to be a Christian, how well do we measure up? Time permitting, once we've wrestled with this, we've got a couple of other questions to which we can turn, one scripturally based, the other philosophical.
In Matthew's Gospel (6:34), Jesus has some words that seem pretty relevant in these anxiety-filled days: "So do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own. Today’s trouble is enough for today." Is this good advice? Or even realistic to ask? What do you think is Jesus' basis for saying this? Finally, is not having to worry something that only privileged people can practice?
And now, to throw a little philosophy into the mix, the French philosopher Rene Descartes (no horse jokes please) said this: "We do not describe the world we see. We see the world we can describe." What do you think he is getting at here, and do you agree?
Join us for the conversation this evening, Tuesday Nov. 11, starting at 7pm at Irish Tavern in downtown Lake Orion.
This Sunday, all are welcome to join us for a morning of worship and fellowship. Whether you are with us in the sanctuary or joining from afar, your presence strengthens our community. Our service is at 9:30 a.m. We warmly welcome those who cannot attend in person to join us via our live stream.
This Sunday, all are welcome to join us for a morning of worship and fellowship. Whether you are with us in the sanctuary or joining from afar, your presence strengthens our community. Our service is at 9:30 a.m. We warmly welcome those who cannot attend in person to join us via our live stream.
On Christmas Eve, all are welcome to join us as we celebrate the birth of Christ. Whether you are worshiping with us in the sanctuary or joining from afar, your presence is a meaningful part of our community as we gather on this holy night. We invite you to join us for one of our Christmas Eve services: 7:00 p.m. Festal Choral Eucharist 11:00 p.m. Contemplative Midnight Mass Those who are unable to attend in person are warmly invited to join us via our live stream for the 7:00 p.m. service.
This Sunday, all are welcome to join us for a morning of worship and fellowship. Whether you are with us in the sanctuary or joining from afar, your presence strengthens our community. Our service is at 9:30 a.m. We warmly welcome those who cannot attend in person to join us via our live stream.
This Sunday, all are welcome to join us for a morning of worship and fellowship. Whether you are with us in the sanctuary or joining from afar, your presence strengthens our community. Our service is at 9:30 a.m. We warmly welcome those who cannot attend in person to join us via our live stream.
You may have run across this story over the last week or so, but if not, the above is the Nativity scene on display out from on St. Susanna Parish, a Roman Catholic church in Dedham, MA, a suburb of Boston. Notice what's missing from the scene: Yep, Mary, Joseph, and the infant Jesus are gone, replaced with the sign "ICE was here," a reference to the federal agency that has been engaged in aggressive raids and detentions targeting immigrants and refugees the government argues are in the country illegally. The implication, of course, is that the religious figures have picked up for immigration violations. Despite criticism from some in the Dedham community, and leaders of the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston, the parish says the display will be kept as it is: "Father Stephen Josoma said he chose to focus the nativity on immigration after speaking with several of the refugee families the church has worked with in the past few years. Several of his congregants, who come from countries like Honduras, Guatemala and Afghanistan, expressed fear about what the stepped-up deportations could mean if they were sent back to the violence they fled. ... He said th.e display is meant to show “the context Christmas is happening in this year,” adding that current immigration policies feel “brutal” and threaten the status of people who have already settled in the U.S." A spokesman for the archdiocese called the scene "politically divisive" and called on the parish to return the display to its "proper sacred purpose." You can read more in this article from Boston Public Radio station WBUR . For its part, the parish says it has no plans to budge on its nativity display, which for more than a decade has served as a vehicle for the congregation to comment on politically charged issues like gun control, climate change, and immigration. What do you make of this? Both the specific display at St. Susanna's this year as well as the larger idea of using a Nativity scene to comment on controversial issues of politics and social justice? Josoma, the parish's rector, acknowledges that some people might just want to come and see "a nice little place for baby Jesus and his family to celebrate Christmas," but that he believes religious art should engage the viewer in more profound ways. So is this sacrilegious or a creative act of bearing witness? After all, in the Gospel of Matthew we learn that a few days after Jesus birth an angel comes to Joseph and warns him to flee with his family to Egypt to escape King Herod's plans to find and kill the infant Jesus. Is the parish's display an act of political resistance, and is that appropriate for a church? Join us for the conversation tomorrow evening, Tuesday Dec. 9, starting at 7pm at Irish Tavern in downtown Lake Orion.
This Sunday, all are welcome to join us for a morning of worship and fellowship. Whether you are with us in the sanctuary or joining from afar, your presence strengthens our community. Our service is at 9:30 a.m. We warmly welcome those who cannot attend in person to join us via our live stream.
"Only when I understood that I had a primal need for silence was I able to begin my search for it – and there, deep beneath a cacophony of traffic noise and thoughts, music and machinery, iPhones and snow ploughs, it lay in wait for me. Silence." -- So writes Norwegian explorer Erling Kagge. In tonight's discussion we're going to talk about the role of silence in our everyday and spiritual lives. For one window into this, consider the practice of Quaker Meeting, in which worship takes place in collective silence. As Tracy Chevalier writes in The Guardian : "Since their establishment in the mid-17th century, Quakers – or the Society of Friends, as they are formally known – have worshipped in collective silence, without the intervention of priest or minister, listening in the stillness for something non-verbal and timeless tucked deep inside. Some call it God, or the Spirit, or the Inner Light, or something less overtly religious. By stripping away noise, it is easier to let go of the everyday, settle one's thoughts, and listen. Quaker Meeting is much like meditation, except done together. The communal nature of the experience is essential, for being with others makes the silence more valuable. Sometimes at Meeting when I'm restless, I sense the stillness of those around me and it reminds me of what I'm doing, so that I sit still and try again." In his book, "Silence, in the Age of Noise," Kagge asks, and then seeks the answers to three basic questions: "What is silence? Where is it? Why is it more important now than ever?" We will look for our own answers in our conversation beginning at 7 pm this evening at Irish Tavern in downtown Lake Orion. Check out the link below to read an excerpt from Kagge's book. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/sep/23/the-power-of-silence-in-the-smartphone-age?fbclid=IwY2xjawObzTNleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFObmh6OEdIZGJjUklzR0dEc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHocsRhIVswsmRIzbW5YQMFbtEEaZX0DCx_8wGMMljDE0ojk0MuzgCHlR63M9_aem_Ea0AQyoEEfNf5o7ebu_OPg
This Sunday, all are welcome to join us for a morning of worship and fellowship. Whether you are with us in the sanctuary or joining from afar, your presence strengthens our community. Our service is at 9:30 a.m. We warmly welcome those who cannot attend in person to join us via our live stream.
This Sunday, all are welcome to join us for a morning of worship and fellowship. Whether you are with us in the sanctuary or joining from afar, your presence strengthens our community. Our service is at 9:30 a.m. We warmly welcome those who cannot attend in person to join us via our live stream.