Pub Theology 11/4/25 -- There's nothing easy about this

Some years ago I was having a conversation with a student when she noticed the Jesus action figure on the bookshelf behind my desk. What, doesn't everyone have a Jesus action figure in their office? Anyway, this led to a conversation about churches and church traditions. She had grown up in the Pentecostal church and asked me what I thought of the practice of speaking in tongues. I told her it wasn't part of my church tradition, but that I understood it as one of the gifts of the spirit that Paul identifies in 1 Corinthians 12:8-10, though I admitted my own skepticism that the way speaking in tongues is typically practiced was actually divinely inspired. And I followed up with a question of my own. I asked whether in her church she had ever encountered someone with the gift of the interpretation of tongues, another on Paul's list. She said she hadn't, though she didn't attach any real significance to that. I was reminded of this conversation in church on Sunday when one of our readings was that very section of Paul's letter. In it he identifies the variety of gifts that the spirit may impart, emphasizing that for all of the differences in gifts, they all come from or flow through the same spirit. Here's Paul's list: utterance of wisdom through the spirit; utterance of knowledge according to the spirit; faith; gifts of healing; the working of powerful deeds; prophecy; discernment of spirits; various kinds of tongues; and the interpretation of tongues. I reading up for this topic, I came across a piece written by a Pentecostal writer who says that when he finds himself in periods of spiritual crisis he prays in tongues for wisdom from God. I honestly have no idea what that means in practice. Perhaps I've not sufficiently opened myself up to receive the Holy Spirit. Or maybe I just don't get it. I suspect I'm not the only one baffled here. So let's talk about it in our conversation this evening. What do you make of Paul's list of the gifts of the spirit? Do you take their meaning literally, or is this more metaphorical and rhetorical? Have you ever experienced any of these gifts firsthand, either in yourself or witnessed in others? If you were coming up with such a list today, what would be on it? Join us for the discussion this evening starting at 7pm at Irish Tavern in downtown Lake Orion. The weather is beautiful, so we may be out on the patio. Look for us there. And a reminder, this is our last meeting before we take our break for the summer. We'll swing back into action in September.